Direct Messages - Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 12:44 PM

Hey man, I know you like the new navbar, but the module padding is way too much. It was fine the way it was before, even if it was small. There is so much wasted space on the new one. My desktop is not a cell phone, the buttons don't need to be massive. And it looks horrible on mobile. It's also inconsistent with the secondary Nav which keeps the smaller left and right boundaries.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 12:44 PM

nah I don't really like much of the new navbar

it's a temporary measure before we move on to the next phase

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 12:45 PM

Ah okay, I understand. That makes sense

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 12:45 PM

there were some emergency bug fixes to be made so we made as many changes to make it useable

for eg. those links in the menu are all single-column atm because something broke in the responsiveness

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 12:46 PM

Ah

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 12:50 PM

anyhow, which link paddings are looking huger?

the primary nav height itself has not changed, it's always been 60px - so I am thinking some change happened in the sideways padding (most likely the game icons)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 12:58 PM

Yep, gimme a sec

It looks better now... the new modules look normal with the new padding, but the old modules with the new padding was the problem.

Speaking of which, I'm not a fan of the new nav at all. it feels less customizable with no benefit (edited)

The primary nav has no organization options, and the games module that's featured in the primary nav shows no information whatsoever nor does it have any pop-out panel to navigate through (edited)

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:01 PM

yeah tom wants to go for simplicity and wants more control over the primary nav

so GB having more control over the nav means users get less control over it

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:02 PM

That... genuinely sucks in every way

i can't think of a single positive

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:02 PM

Hmm, that's because you are a user

there are many positives for GB the website

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:02 PM

like?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:02 PM

like he can use the freed up space to market checkpoint

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:03 PM

couldn't that be a default module?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:03 PM

the old header had many GB affiliate sites in the past - Genr8rs, a separate contest website

bonkmaykr

couldn't that be a default module?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:03 PM

spacing issues as well as users removing it onto the sidenav

site logos tend to be wider

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:04 PM

The new Sections tab isn't organized whatsoever, and the old one isn't accessible anymore

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:04 PM

that's what I already mentioned above lol

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:04 PM

isn't that a downgrade?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

for eg. those links in the menu are all single-column atm because something broke in the responsiveness

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:04 PM

.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:05 PM

ah my bad

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:05 PM

The ones that are not accessible are pages that are going to get removed

like /mods

that page is getting removed

it's one of the first parts of a change where the site will be more community-oriented

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:08 PM

Okay, here's the way I see it. The nav bars should be reserved exclusively for things the user accesses frequently. Thus, things like having the latest site update on the primary navbar at all times is an obnoxious use of space. And the way it's organized should be entirely subjective. A lot of people don't like their sections button locked to the right top corner, some people probably do. I don't, i'm right handed and prefer my navigation on the left hand side. The new primary nav modules are not expressive of the user's needs, nor do they provide quick access to essential and useful information that was there previously. That's an objective downgrade from before and should have been worked out with users via a poll or blog question before being rolled out.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:09 PM

Hmm, we were gonna remove the sections button itself

basically that site map is going to get reorganized a bit more

Also, that's just a freedom that GB gave you which you will not find on any other major website (edited)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:10 PM

The new sections pane also lacks a quick "Add Mod" shortcut, meaning you have to take more steps to upload things, and it does not use existing CSS selectors or variables for backwards compatibility reasons. It complicates uberstyles by giving us another thing to worry about separate from SecondaryNav modules and panes/articles

bonkmaykr

The new sections pane also lacks a quick "Add Mod" shortcut, meaning you have to take more steps to upload things, and it does not use existing CSS selectors or variables for backwards compatibility reasons. It complicates uberstyles by giving us another thing to worry about separate from SecondaryNav modules and panes/articles

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:10 PM

that's on me because tom's older HTML was too long

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:11 PM

Considering that one of the major concerns as of late was accessibility for new users, this is a step backward

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:11 PM

Actually there has to be a balance - giving everything customizable just leads to a slew of more bugs to fix

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

that's on me because tom's older HTML was too long

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:11 PM

and had lots of unnecessary divs - smaller DOM, better rendering and better performance

There is going to be a lot of DOM chopping from here on forth - uberstyles are gonna break and I am not at all going to be apologetic about it

I can't have one user complaining about both performance issues and uberstyle breakage at the same time (not you, other users) (edited)

Anyways there is no way that you change the fundamental HTML structure and make it backwards compatible

tom's older CSS selectors are SCSS nested - hence long than necessary

the nesting gives maintainable code but not performant CSS (edited)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:18 PM

At this point i'm considering creating a module that reverts structure for profiles with old ubers that need it

just for maitenance sake

because i know i can't really do anything

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:18 PM

hmm, that will be pain - there will be more HTML chopping in the future

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:18 PM

Well aware

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:18 PM

anyways, apart from uberstyles your other feedback has been noted

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:18 PM

i'm usually observant when something breaks like that, the changes aren't all that subtle

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:19 PM

uberstyles - that is going to be something the entire site is going to have to bear - the ability to customize is a privilege (edited)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:19 PM

While we're on the subject however, it would be nice if layout changes were announced ahead of time like they have been in the past, e.g. with module > h3 being changed.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:19 PM

hmm, it will get announced in the announcement blog

the structure is never stable hence announcing it ahead of time is pointless

the only thing I'd announce right now is how to recustomize the GB logo again

the rest of the nav is going to change again

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:20 PM

If you announce layout changes a week in advance then uberstylists can prepare updates for when it rolls out

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:20 PM

sure, don't blame me when it changes within the next week

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:28 PM

I have been on the receiving end of uberstyle changes BTW (been updating ubers since 2013 -.-)

that's something I just accept - the site needs to move forward with development work and changing the site just means things will break

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:30 PM

well this is gone, so i cant set the new nav style back to fixed or else it breaks (goes off-screen). which means that i'm permanently stuck with a janky uberstyle where the navbar changes position based on the scroll position, for some reason

bonkmaykr

well this is gone, so i cant set the new nav style back to fixed or else it breaks (goes off-screen). which means that i'm permanently stuck with a janky uberstyle where the navbar changes position based on the scroll position, for some reason

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:32 PM

hmm by fixed do you mean staying at top of screen and not scrolling with the user?

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:32 PM

No, the opposite

scrolling with the screen, stuck at the top at all times at a fixed position

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:32 PM

that is the default behavior of the nav?

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:32 PM

yes.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:32 PM

uhm so can you show a gif or video of the issue you are facing?

did not get it

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:33 PM

it is set to sticky now, so it only stays fixed when it's at its minimum distance from the edge (top:0;)

for ubers with navbars that stick out slightly, this ruins them

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:33 PM

yeah, so uhm change the CSS?

all you need to do is set it back to fixed if you want that

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:35 PM

setting to fixed does this.

Because the width is forced at 100%. When an element is fixed, it perceives the parent element's dimensions as whatever the page size is.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:35 PM

you want flexible width to go with that right?

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:35 PM

Without the original max-width system from the old NavOptions, this will occur

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:36 PM

can you show me what was the earlier thing or what you expect it to look like?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

you want flexible width to go with that right?

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:36 PM

The old width system used a few fixed px values depending on user settings

the old system

the new

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:36 PM

I see, well again that was code based on a resize event that caused performance issues

this is all CSS

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

this is all CSS

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:38 PM

No, the inline CSS which sets the nav to it's appropriate size was done via the NavOptions. The code for that is no longer there, there is no fixed width set and the nav options no longer affect the nav bar. There is no way to fix this with CSS alone to my knowledge unless the nav itself is reverted

If I were to force this myself then it would not respect the user preferences either and would make the problem worse

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:39 PM

ahh ok, you meant the site width preference code, there was another resize event code which I thought you were referring to

bonkmaykr

No, the inline CSS which sets the nav to it's appropriate size was done via the NavOptions. The code for that is no longer there, there is no fixed width set and the nav options no longer affect the nav bar. There is no way to fix this with CSS alone to my knowledge unless the nav itself is reverted

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:40 PM

yeah that is being worked upon, tom is now sending all navoptions via the API, so soon that will get integrated as well

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:41 PM

that's fine but I don't understand why we can't have our cake and eat it too

The performance part makes some sense , save for the fact that most browsers and devices handle it just fine and that most problems are with clunky gpu-heavy ubers and not much else

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:42 PM

Hmm because development happens in bits and pieces

I for one am ok with the negative feedback

can sure as hell not change the entire site in one-go

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:42 PM

Well there's a dev branch, can't that be used for testing in private? Couldn't there be an opt-in system?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:42 PM

nope, we ain't Steam Labs unfortunately

or Reddit which had a dedicated team to maintain the old reddit site

those who did not want the new site did not opt in to it at all

that's because it added new features and had incomplete old ones

and had bugs, tons of them - but reddit has had bugs since the beginning, it took years to fix those on the old one, and same will happen with the new one one day

will keep getting developed upon and improved

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:52 PM

What bugs did the old one even have

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:52 PM

hmm, if you followed it from the initial days when imgur and reddit were one (if you mean reddit)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:53 PM

I mean GB.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:53 PM

GB? has had lots of bugs over the years (edited)

hmm still outstanding bugs from 9 or 10 years back

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:53 PM

The Nav specifically.

Prior to November, and I mean only directly prior to November. (edited)

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:54 PM

Cool, you did not read what I wrote above

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:54 PM

I forgor it.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 01:54 PM

Sure I forgot the bugs as well

no effort from you, none from me

Well chatted long enough, gotta go now

cya

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 01:56 PM

I don't remember you saying anything regarding specific examples of bugs in the Nav, that was your queue to tell me, and judging by your current tone I get the idea that you have no desire to cooperate or show transparency.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:17 PM

I understand this isn't entirely within your control and was tom's idea, from what you've told me, but considering that he is trying to cater to new users for accessibility sake, I think this should say it all:

bonkmaykr

I don't remember you saying anything regarding specific examples of bugs in the Nav, that was your queue to tell me, and judging by your current tone I get the idea that you have no desire to cooperate or show transparency.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:18 PM

back now was fixing a bug - you are not the only user on GB that I need to reply to, you know?

bonkmaykr

I understand this isn't entirely within your control and was tom's idea, from what you've told me, but considering that he is trying to cater to new users for accessibility sake, I think this should say it all:

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:19 PM

tom forgot about that button, a genuine error - but no we do everything on purpose now

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:19 PM

That is fair.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:19 PM

And yes catering to one user's questions and attempting to reply them = being uncooperative

how very nice of you to say that

Now expect many more replies from me in the future, no honestly.

Literally breaks down the entire header to you alone from the entire site => lack of transparency.

Dude, done with trying to chat with you to be honest. There's just a limited amount of chances I can give to a person

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:21 PM

I was simply under the impression that you did not care, considering that when I asked you the specific problems that lead to this change you told me that there was "no effort" and that i "did not read"

Whether I made a mistake or not, that tells me you do not want me to understand what's going on.

And rather than simply saying so, you've gone hostile.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:22 PM

I'll be hostile if you show hostility

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:22 PM

I've not done anything to you.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:22 PM

That's what you think

I haven't done anything to you either

How does that sound, I can just say whatever I want to make my side feel good

"He's at fault here, I just did not write anything"

bonkmaykr

I don't remember you saying anything regarding specific examples of bugs in the Nav, that was your queue to tell me, and judging by your current tone I get the idea that you have no desire to cooperate or show transparency.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:23 PM

just go read this 10 times. Yes 10.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:23 PM

I literally only wanted you to just tell me why the old system was so problematic.

It's not that hard.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:23 PM

It's hard when you cherry pick lol

That's all you do mate

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:24 PM

I don't see what's funny about that.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:24 PM

Well I see, my humor my perspective

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:24 PM

I like having precise answers. I can't put together an incomplete picture well.

I figured you would have known that by now.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:24 PM

There are precise answers in there, but you couldn't see (edited)

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:24 PM

And that's why I asked you.

Instead you told me I wasn't listening and got pissy with me. (edited)

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:25 PM

I don't have too much time to clarify since you are not the only GB site user there

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:25 PM

That's fine.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:25 PM

I am going to get pissy when someone goes rude over a person who is making a genuine attempt to explain

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:26 PM

I didn't see any attempt, considering I only asked a question and that that was enough for you to go off.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:26 PM

yeah look at the sentences above it when you ask that question

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:26 PM

If you seriously didn't know then you could have just said so.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:26 PM

That was a statement that applied to the entire site as a whole, yet you go and pick the header

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:27 PM

I just asked for examples of bugs that the header had experienced which made the new system worthwhile. You said that the old system was too buggy and wasn't worth keeping anymore.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:27 PM

Hence I said read again

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:27 PM

There's nothing wrong with being curious.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:28 PM

Haven't said anything about the old system being buggy and not worthwhile at all

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

Hence I said read again

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

You gave me a brief history lesson about reddit, as a comparison to why the old system was being replaced, as it had happened to other sites previously. You told me it was related to bugs.

One thing leads to another. That left me with bigger questions. I asked those questions. You got angry.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

Dude, read that again or this conversation will never go anywhere

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

Read what again

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

All you do is cherry-pick a few words and then ask some weird questions

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

I've read everything and found nothing.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:29 PM

You spoke as if header is the only update made to GB in recent times

bonkmaykr

I've read everything and found nothing.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:30 PM

hence I said 0 effort

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:30 PM

That was the change I was most interested in as it's the most recent and the most drastic from my perspective.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

hence I said 0 effort

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:30 PM

that's "i've read nothing and found nothing."

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:30 PM

Yeah, that's where it will stay then for you.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:30 PM

I didn't say I've read nothing.

You're intentionally avoiding providing me with an answer in favor of prolonging a petty argument where neither of us are going to win because you are unaware of my initial intent nor where the problem lies.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:31 PM

You are the one who is unaware of my intent

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:32 PM

If you didn't want to answer, you could have just said so.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:32 PM

I don't want to answer because you were the one who caused a diversion lol

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:32 PM

Whatever man, tell yourself that.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:32 PM

I was talking about the header in the first place, but you had to go with things like "Can't have the cake and eat it too" especially after explanantions about why it is so

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:33 PM

My point was that we aren't being given any choice.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:33 PM

Sure, and how about that - it's a decision from the site makers

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:35 PM

These updates, most of which are unfinished and are initially downgrades on release, are being forced onto us with no option to opt out and no vote on whether they should be rolled out or not, and are being released in a broken state. You responded by telling me that Gamebanana is not one of those, and provided me an example of how things could and should have been, with Reddit in particular -- simply having the old system being moved somewhere else where users could opt-in to it. I payed full attention to that. What you did not tell me are the "bugs" that you speak of, which were from what I understand the reason that the nav was overhauled to begin with.

If you're going to waste our time blaming me for simply wanting to know something, then I no longer wish to speak to you. And by the way, your tone was rather iffy several times. I might as well just do this myself at this point.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:36 PM

I am polite when the guy at the other end is polite.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:36 PM

And I've done nothing wrong other than provoke a misunderstanding.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:36 PM

You are the one who started provoking.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:37 PM

Tell yourself that.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:37 PM

I don't hold back anyways. You are prone to misunderstandings form my past experiences

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:37 PM

I have no idea what that even means

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:37 PM

I have been very polite back then but this is more or less the last straw

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:37 PM

Over what? Me being honest?

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:38 PM

You are honest, I never declined that. You misunderstand and misinterpret a lot

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:38 PM

And yet you prefer to get angry instead of working around that or telling me sooner.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:38 PM

And your conversations begin with negativity and rudeness. That's all.

I try working around it but there is a difference between honesty and upfrontness over outright negativity and rudeness

bonkmaykr

Hey man, I know you like the new navbar, but the module padding is way too much. It was fine the way it was before, even if it was small. There is so much wasted space on the new one. My desktop is not a cell phone, the buttons don't need to be massive. And it looks horrible on mobile. It's also inconsistent with the secondary Nav which keeps the smaller left and right boundaries.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:39 PM

This is feedback. There was nothing hateful to be found here.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:39 PM

I did not mean that lol

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:39 PM

Then point it out.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:39 PM

Point out my iffy stuff first

I'll work my way from there

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

sure, don't blame me when it changes within the next week

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:41 PM

Hm, let's see, assuming that I am going to get angry, and at you specifically, when expected layout changes arrive? Completely missing the entire point that confusion and conflict was precisely what I was trying to avoid with the suggestion that users should be warned and have their feedback heard ahead of time instead of afterward. I never said I was blaming you for any of this, only that the development team as a whole should make a greater effort to not throw unexpected roadblocks at users.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:42 PM

I mentioned why that was not possible

I did say that nav is again going to change within a few days time

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:42 PM

There was no public announcement issued, nor any built-in detail on what the changes would be. (edited)

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:43 PM

Because tom works on those after the updates, coding comes first. Since you expect me to understand how you want your answers, I'd expect you to understand that.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:43 PM

That could be solved by just having the changes on an opt-in testing branch first before rolling them out.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:43 PM

Been a pattern ever since the beginning of my collab with tom, Mini made the initial updates after the changes have been deployed.

You are putting a good deal of emphasis on pre-warning ahead of time when I already pointed out that it is not a finalized product

bonkmaykr

That could be solved by just having the changes on an opt-in testing branch first before rolling them out.

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:44 PM

again told you about that.

No time, no resources

Resources = servers, people to manage and maintain the branches. There's just the two of us, part time.

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:44 PM

Fair then

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt 15-Nov-21 02:44 PM

That was the beginning of the comparision with reddit

But yeah, let's stick to "bugs", "old design"

You made me answer your same questions, twice.

If you did not understand an answer, could have just asked "What do you mean by this?"

Ring-A-Ding Rampage / ParaBolt

or Reddit which had a dedicated team to maintain the old reddit site

bonkmaykr 15-Nov-21 02:45 PM

I skimmed over this. Thank you.